Raja Petra Kamarudin <adilnet@streamyx.com> wrote:
(Bernama) -- Government and opposition members of the Dewan Rakyat Monday were locked in a shouting match over Malaysia's status as an Islamic country, forcing Deputy Speaker Lim Si Cheng to intervene.
"That's enough, Yang Berhormat, that's enough, everyone please sit down," said Lim when the battle of words between government supporters and the DAP turned emotional.
"Please be seated. I would like to ask all involved, all the Yang Berhormat who are in the Dewan, to adhere to the standing orders to ensure our meeting can proceed smoothly."
Lim also advised Datuk Badruddin Amiruldin (BN-Jerai), who had demanded that those who did not agree that Malaysia was an Islamic country to leave the country, not to be emotional.
"Yang Berhormat Jerai, please be careful about what you say...I advise you not to be emotional," he said.
Badruddin's remark caused Chow Kon Yeow (DAP-Tanjung) to propose a motion that the Jerai MP be brought before the Rights and Privileges Committee, but it was rejected.
The uproar started after Karpal Singh (DAP-Bukit Gelugor) raised the issue when Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Dr Abdullah Md Zin was winding up the debate on the Syariah Court Evidence (Federal Territories) (Amendment) 2005 Bill.
Karpal, who was not satisfied with Abdullah's answer on the decision by five judges of the Supreme Court in 1988 who were said to have unanimously agreed that Malaysia was a secular country, stood up to ask for an explanation on the issue.
Abdullah said Karpal's question had been answered in the first part of his winding up speech last Thursday in connection with a drug case which carried the mandatory death sentence.
"Actually, the verdict in the case did not at all state that Malaysia was a secular and not an Islamic country because the case stated that the laws applied were secular.
"The case meant that the laws used were secular and not that this country was secular...they are two different situations," he said.
Karpal then accused Abdullah of not understanding the law and asked him to seek advice from the Attorney-General.
"I interprete it according to my understanding and you according to yours," Abdullah responded.
Abdullah could not continue with his speech because several DAP members including Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timur) stood up and requested for an explanation on the issue.
The same issue was again raised in the evening when Kit Siang claimed he represented Barisan Nasional component parties including those in Sabah and Sarawak who also disagreed that Malaysia was an Islamic country but were afraid to voice their opinion.
The Deputy Speaker advised the Opposition Leader not to stray from the original topic.
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Posted by Raja Petra Kamarudin to MT-news at 7/11/2005 08:39:00 PM
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MPs in shouting match over Islamic country status
(Bernama) - Government and opposition members of the Dewan Rakyat were
locked in a shouting match over Malaysia's status as an Islamic country,
forcing Deputy Speaker Lim Si Cheng to intervene.
"That's enough, Yang Berhormat, that's enough, everyone please sit down,"
said Lim when the battle of words between government supporters and the
DAP turned emotional. "Please be seated. I would like to ask all
involved, all the Yang Berhormat who are in the Dewan, to adhere to the
standing orders to ensure our meeting can proceed smoothly."
Lim also advised Datuk Badruddin Amiruldin (BN-Jerai), who had demanded
that those who did not agree that Malaysia was an Islamic country to
leave the country, not to be emotional. "Yang Berhormat Jerai, please be
careful about what you say...I advise you not to be emotional," he said.
Badruddin's remark caused Chow Kon Yeow (DAP-Tanjung) to propose a motion
that the Jerai MP be brought before the Rights and Privileges Committee,
but it was rejected. The uproar started after Karpal Singh (DAP-Bukit
Gelugor) raised the issue when Minister in the Prime Minister's
Department Datuk Dr Abdullah Md Zin was winding up the debate on the
Syariah Court Evidence (Federal Territories) (Amendment) 2005 Bill.
Karpal, who was not satisfied with Abdullah's answer on the decision by
five judges of the Supreme Court in 1988 who were said to have
unanimously agreed that Malaysia was a secular country, stood up to ask
for an explanation on the issue. Abdullah said Karpal's question had been
answered in the first part of his winding up speech last Thursday in
connection with a drug case which carried the mandatory death sentence.
"Actually, the verdict in the case did not at all state that Malaysia was
a secular and not an Islamic country because the case stated that the
laws applied were secular.
"The case meant that the laws used were secular and not that this country
was secular...they are two different situations," he said. Karpal then
accused Abdullah of not understanding the law and asked him to seek
advice from the Attorney-General.
"I interprete it according to my understanding and you according to
yours," Abdullah responded. Abdullah could not continue with his speech
because several DAP members including Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang
(DAP-Ipoh Timur) stood up and requested for an explanation on the issue.
The same issue was again raised in the evening when Kit Siang claimed he
represented Barisan Nasional component parties including those in Sabah
and Sarawak who also disagreed that Malaysia was an Islamic country but
were afraid to voice their opinion.
The Deputy Speaker advised the Opposition Leader not to stray from the
original topic.
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